Truth be told, there are some philosophical issues with calculating a reasonable S corporation salary when your labor is the only material income-producing factor for the business. Some would argue that all the S Corp’s income should then be considered shareholder wages and subjected to Social Security and Medicare taxes, since if you died the company would die (especially for specified service trades or businesses such as an attorney, accountant, or physician).
Your Butt Material Income Producing Factor
Conversely, there might be times when your business would continue without you. When WCG does business valuations, especially in divorce proceedings, we assign a value to personal and enterprise goodwill through a method called excess earnings (the recognized method in Colorado and other states, although the tides are shifting). We do this by taking a number called seller’s discretionary cash flow (SDCF) and we subtract the cash flow that is derived from tangible assets (cash, equipment, etc.). This leaves us with a theoretical number that is considered goodwill, which can be used as a proxy to determine your “value” to the business and can be leveraged into creating an S Corp salary calculator with 1s and 0s. Quantifiable stuff.
We further tease out personal goodwill and enterprise goodwill, since in some jurisdictions personal goodwill is not marital property. This might seem like an odd tangent, but a similar argument can be made for a business that does not rely on you. One great example is a financial advisor that has a small team supporting them. Typically, the fee income continues well into the future without the direct involvement of the advisor (enterprise goodwill). In this situation, an argument for a smaller salary could be warranted, since enterprise goodwill exceeds personal goodwill. Consider this:
Business Type |
Owner Participation |
Software developer who has gone to market |
10% |
Amazon retailer, a lot of drop shipments, no inventory |
20% |
Financial advisor with small team |
30% |
Doctor who is a partner in an emergency clinic |
40% |
Consultant, Attorney, Accountant |
90% |
Actor with no endorsements or couch-jumping events |
100% |
Of course, this is all theoretical and is open to debate, but you get the idea.
Assembled Workforce
For example, you start off as a one-person engineering firm earning $150,000 net ordinary business income (profit) after expenses and deductions but before shareholder salary. You pay yourself $65,000 and pocket $85,000 as shareholder distributions. Done.
Time moves along, and you’ve hired eight other engineers, and they are paid $90,000 each but contribute $60,000 to the bottom line of the business (using the $150,000 number above as a proxy). Even if you increase your salary to $150,000, you still have $480,000 ($60,000 x 8) available for shareholder distributions.
Developed Process
Using our previous question about the actor or on-air personality, would your answer change if this person developed a process such as podcasts, videos, merchandising, likeness licensing, etc.? Of course, it would. An actor who earns $300,000 from acting and $200,000 from other sustainable sources is much different than the surgeon who earned $500,000. As such, reasonable S corporation salaries would certainly vary.
Here’s another one to make you think. How about a financial advisor who has been in the business for 25 years? A lot of their present-day income is truly deferred earnings from multiple decades of hard work. Sounds more like an investment, doesn’t it? And as we’ve discussed, a return on an investment is more of a shareholder distribution argument than a reasonable salary argument.
We could go on and on with this.
Investor Risk
Not to go too far into the weeds, but when performing business valuations, we also consider investor value. What rate of return would an investor need to earn after paying you a reasonable salary? Of course, a lower salary to you results in a higher rate of return for the investor. We discuss investment risk and return on investment in a bit. We digress…
This web page is a condensed version of Chapter 9 Reasonable Shareholder Salary from our book, Taxpayer’s Comprehensive Guide to LLCs and S Corps. Here we will review-
- IRS Revenue Rulings and Fact Sheet 2008-25
- Tax Court Cases
- Risk Management Association (RMA), Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and Salary.com
- RC Reports
- Rules of Thumb, Jumping Off Point